This breaks down how the body actually uses food for energy, focusing on how macronutrients carbs, proteins, and fats affect hormones like insulin and glucagon. Instead of just counting calories, it’s more about how these nutrients influence metabolism, energy levels, and fat storage.

It also touches on the impact of processed foods and why different body types react differently to insulin. By focusing on the right balance of macros instead of just cutting calories, people can improve their metabolism, build muscle, and lose fat more effectively.

Highlights of the Podcast

00:03 – Calories Aren’t Real

01:28 – How the Body Processes Carbs & Proteins

04:26 – Insulin Resistance & Diabetes Reversal

06:00 – The Truth About Macros & Dieting

10:18 – Processed Foods & Hormonal Impact

11:29 – Training the Body to Burn Fat

12:25 – Macro-Based Nutrition for Muscle Gain & Fat Loss

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:03] So I usually get the the updates about what the radio interviews are going to be all the time. And one of them is going to be about. There’s a study about two guys who one takes piano and the other one a high carbohydrate, and the guy with high carbohydrates gain muscle and the other guy didn’t and got fat over. It was all based on calorie functions. So I want to read through this again. It’s irritating. Calories aren’t real. So if you look at the definition of calorie, it’s the amount of energy required to heat one kilogram of water, one degree Celsius. It’s like here, like 5000 calories. It’s like eight, seven inches. Okay. Some pictures of what, 5000 calories of what the of what is what actually matters. So when you start looking at, you know, what actually is going on as far as metabolic function, it’s the macro that actually matters. So each macro ultra breaks out at ten minutes. Each macro is tied to a hormone. So sugar, your carbohydrate is tied to insulin and protein inside the glucagon. Insulins. When you consume a carbohydrate, it consumes sugar. Your blood sugar goes up with your body, right? It can’t hide your blood sugar. Outside of the 80 to 120 range. 80 to 102. When it does starts storing it.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:01:28] So insulin comes up and it pushes the sugar into the muscle musculature and IT sources glycogen. The muscles are full. The liver stores it, the liver is glycogen, whatever. Whatever’s left over gets turned into fat. And that’s how the body’s that’s how by a stored sugar when you eat a bunch of protein. What ends up happening is that if you don’t have enough and this is the key piece, if you don’t have enough circulating sugar to produce ATP from which the body actually runs on which your body will then do because of the protein is it will use the system. It releases the hormone, glucagon, glucagon is the same G, the same GLP you GOP So for good gain like peptide sort of this is glucagon like Googong does is it tells the body, hey, stop bringing in sugar from the outside, we’re going to make sugar from the inside. And since we’re running low on sugar, you to start using fat as your primary fuel source. So it tells the mitochondria in the body and it tells all the different chemicals body start using fat, processing fat for fuel. So that’s actually how it happens. And so you write that it produces its own sugar levels of the sugar levels in the blood because your blood can only run out Sure. That your muscles, your brain and all your organs run fat or they can run on sugar. That’s your body suffering fat. So that’s how this all happens.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:02:51] The reason why we like bodybuilders, cut their intake back and they lose muscle and fat is because it’s like you read all the terms like body can’t distinguish between your body 100%. Everything in your body can run on fat. And there’s mitochondria, which is everything besides your blood. Your blood doesn’t have mitochondria. So hassle on sugar. So ends up happening. Is it in your liver? You go through a process called gluconeogenesis. But it’s it happens, you write, it takes protein. It doesn’t have any protein. It’ll rip apart your muscle tissues to get the protein it needs. That’s how you get the muscle loss. It will take that protein and it puts through the liver and it goes across. So going to Genesis Peppers is more sugar for your blood. The reason this has to happen, like I said, is that the blood has no mitochondria. And so what ends up happening is that when sugar glucose comes across to the membrane of the red blood cell, it splits its two lactate and produces two ATP. The ATP runs the cell, and then the lactate gets pushed back out. And so you go back to a lactate process, the core cycle where lactic acid turn back into ATP as well. I’m not going for the record cycle right now, but over here. So that’s kind of how everything runs. So everybody has two choices they can make ATP, which runs on from sugar or from fat. The way that it knows which one to use is because the hormones that are out in the body. So if you’ve been eating a lot of sugar and a lot of high processed trash and you’re fasting, insulin becomes too high, which means that you’re producing a lot of insulin all the time.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:04:26] What that does is it inhibits the body’s ability to produce glucagon. So ends up happening as you become successful or tired all the time. You’re right. It’s run right because you’re right. It’s constantly trying to look for sugar to run and it’s not doing a very good job of producing with guy to produce more sugar or to burn fat. This is the insulin resistance we talk about from diabetes. This is also why diabetes is fixable. So and so. 90, 95% of all diabetes we have in this country is type two diabetes. And a lot of the type one has been this like known as acquired type two. So just gets worse and likes the way that you fix the diabetes is you increase the glucagon function and when you increase glucagon function ends up happening is that the insulin resistance starts slowly coming down because your body produces less and less and less insulin over time. It’s what ends up happening is your body’s not producing the insulin. The instant receptors that have been overburdened and beat up and, you know, by tons and tons of insulin every time they start ratcheting down and start calling out so they become more insulin sensitive. And so it’s happening over time as you just pure diets you go through. GLP one is that over time you’re right, it becomes more sensitive to the insulin and diabetes and goes what? This is also how people are losing weight by getting like your diets is that we reduce the amount of insulin produced. We start producing more glucagon because the protein where consuming, we’re consuming a lot of fat. Somebody has the fat to actually run. And so the two things you’re taking in here, diets are fat and protein.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:06:00] So your body has the fat to run on everywhere else, and it has the fruits to turn into sugar for your blood. That’s how it runs. And so that’s how the metabolic function actually run. So don’t don’t want it. Calories, macros. It’s always funny because people are like, I found a really good diet at eight 3000 calories and I’ve split them up into 70, you know, 30 protein, you know, protein fat and then like so that means this three grams of protein and this many grams of fat. But guess what? You’re no longer running on calorie. You’re actually doing a calorie based diet. You’re doing a macro based, gram based diet. You’re actually taking in this three grams of fat and this any grams of protein. This is a great thing. And so that’s where you’re actually looking at. So if you want to build an actual functional diet, that’s what you have to do. You have to go to the actual macro and be like, how many of these macros to act two grams of this thing? Do I want to actually initiate the change? Now it’s a little bit more complicated because when we look at how hydrates, carbohydrates are split into two things sugars and fiber. Fiber, I realize, is another hard thing to understand. If you eat it, that doesn’t mean a weight in your body that goes in your mouth and you swallow it. It’s still not in your body by definition. It has to be absorbed through the course of the mucosal membrane into the blood system virtually in your body.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:07:20] And so fiber, by definition never gets in your mouth. However, it has fewer calories because, again, calories from added offsets is limited, is assigned to whatever they want. Now sugar will get absorbed. This absorption function is sort of adding in fiber decreases absorption function so we can get into that. That’s a really fun topic, but it’s very nerdy. That’s kind of how that would play through. So sugar is you bring it in now as you eat these things that have carbohydrates that have sugar and broccoli, donuts, white rice, they have something called the glycemic effects regulation index. So it’s how quickly does that food that you just consume turn into sugar in your blood? That’s the GI. The higher the GI, the fat, faster terms, the sugar, the larger the instant response. So again, we’re looking at sugars tied to insulin and how that plays into that. And then glucagon, we haven’t really figured out with your system where it’s like, state turns good at this rate and chicken turns in at that rate. So we don’t really have that. But just keep that in mind. You can pretty much have enough proteins. You want some of your fat or what is the concern that you might have. But it’s not it’s not your fat protein talking to your fat. Now, the the big thing on this is that how sensitive you are to the insulin of the glucagon? This is the similar type chart. So we have some outer type.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:44] See how we react to more seasoned, worse and then the worse yet the worst of the guys who can never they never gain weight. You have to give them lots and lots of sugar. Your grandma sugar’s the right time for them to actually gain muscle tissue or being fat. So those are very insulin resistant. Those those guys are not super sensitive students. It doesn’t mean it’s doesn’t work in their body. It just means the response of storage function is lower. So the easiest way to think about this on the other end of the spectrum was while the endo morphs, we’re very, very, very good with it. We could store anything. We will turn it off in the fat without even without even thinking about it. So look, we make fat really easy. So we we’re you can think of that as being very insulin sensitive. So what you’ve got to kind of worry about is, okay, well, how do we reduce the insulin function? And that’s where the keto diet and kind of weird things are occurring and and that’s where it starts playing out. So there’s a lot of that that’s in strategy. Then you factor in all of the process drug and how it actually jacks with your body, creates addiction function overconsumption and what it does in your body. So for instance, fructose for just absorbed in the liver first has a 20 times higher affinity affinity sorry, in the liver for being pulled out. So high fructose corn sirup can cause all sorts of havoc. A lot of these gold corn, surface and seed oils create all kinds of inflammatory down functional regulation function. Estrogen, fat burning and utilization goes.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:18] So again, getting the processed foods out and then depending on where you want to go and who’s afraid, who you’re working with. Ectomorphs and Mesomorph into morphs. You can craft the diet to radically change that tissue function with hormones because that’s how your body communicates your right to communicate with ones. So if you can start recognizing that we’re playing a hormone game with our food, we’re not playing a calorie game, you’re going to get a lot more functional before that where the other things we’ve been able to do with GMP once this is works really, really well, is you take somebody, put them on the right lifestyle or exercise, right diet, that whole thing, and it doesn’t work well. The reason for that is because your body is very inefficient. It’s been around sugar for a long, long time, trying to get it to now switch over and run on something else is like it’s like saying I’m going to start running with my left hand and be like, How come it’s not as good as my right hand? You haven’t been using that system very much. And so oftentimes if you brown sugar for five, seven, ten, 12 years, your fat burning system isn’t where it needs to be. The GOP wants to force you to start using your fat system and then over about 6 to 12 weeks starts working pretty well.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:11:29] You’re going to start slowly back it off. Continuing right by the body will then remember how to burn fat on its own and you can continue to burn fat as your primary fuel source. So that’s the way that we do that. The GOP ones, that’s the way that the metabolic function system works. This is why if you’re trying to gain muscle mass, you need to start looking at your macro function, not the calorie function. I know it gets really, really difficult, but that’s where it is. It’s also why, you know, you can take some college and some meth lab vitamins and fast for four days left to slowly gain muscle tissue and lose that at the same time your body’s running on fat to college and helps you build new muscle tissue and emerging a functional protein that the body can make some sugar. So there’s a lot of regulation in there, individualization for individual people, but that’s how it works. So if you guys are still trying to if you have just had a really big issues trying to get where you’re trying to go, fat loss, muscle gain you’re looking for calorie system.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:12:25] You need to start looking at the actual functional chemistry and start looking at what your hormones are doing and start changing what your macro function is actually where it is. It’s always fun to be like if you need a calorie deficit, be high protein. Like, okay, you’re talking nonsense and you’re talking biochemistry. So which one are you going to do? You know, this made up nonsense stuff. We actually go with macros. So if you’ll start going with macro function and drop the calorie thing, you’ll get a lot easier for everybody and we’ll start figuring out how to actually combine to go where we want to go. I don’t know why there’s some type of calorie system that sure as protecting diabetes for this long. People don’t understand how hormone function works for your food. They’re not going to understand how to fix diabetes. So I guess if you have question is the [email protected] or dropping the comments. Thanks for your time.

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