This discussion explores the limitations of degrees and certifications, arguing that they often reflect the ability to recall institutional knowledge rather than the accuracy of that information. It highlights examples from the medical field where commonly accepted advice, such as the effectiveness of certain protective measures or the safety of medications, has been proven incorrect. The focus is on how practical, real-world experience can sometimes provide more reliable insights than formal education.

It also addresses misconceptions in nutrition and the use of medical metrics like BMI, raising concerns about the motives behind popular health recommendations. The influence of financial incentives and industry lobbying is explored, suggesting that these factors may lead to misguided practices. A critical approach is encouraged, promoting thoughtful evaluation of expert opinions beyond the authority of credentials.

Highlights of the Podcast

00:04 – Value of Degrees and Certifications
01:15 – Inaccuracies in Medical Knowledge
02:28 – Difference Between Engineering and Other Disciplines
04:09 – Degrees vs. Real-world Experience
05:53 – Questioning Certifications and Agendas
07:15 – Calorie Misconceptions and Fat Burning
08:25 – BMI and Flaws in Medical Metrics
09:29 – Vaccination and Financial Incentives
10:31 – Degrees and Continuous Learning

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:04] So once I get degrees today, like, you know, as someone who has several degrees and certifications, and by that, I think I have more letters behind my name now than I had in my name. But, I work on one, actually, what that actually means. This is one of those things that, you know, I think we put a lot more stock. We we we believe they mean things they don’t mean. So the what, what a degree actually means is that you went to a group, an institution, whatever. And they ask you questions, and you reply to those questions in the way they wanted you to answer them. Enough that they said yes. You now think just like us. You have retained all the information we are told. You remember, and so we can sign off on the fact that you have remembered the things we have told you really well, which is great. Like what? What a degree actually means that you were able to retain information long enough to take a test on it and get the answers. Right. According to the institution that is delivering the test.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:01:15] So. That’s what it actually means. It has nothing to do with the fact that the information they gave you that you remembered is right. You know, that’s that’s the big thing we have to understand. Just because it means a degree doesn’t mean the information they have is accurate. There’s lots and lots and lots and lots of them. I mean, look at the things the medical community has, for instance, has given us. They they said that paper masks will stop viruses, which is not right. They said that sitting six feet apart looks like a virus, which is not right. They said that opioids are not elective, which was not right. To be fair, we knew that when when they said it. But that’s what they were told. That’s what they had to answer on the test. Is that back in the day, the opioid trial victims, they had to say that vaccines never hurt anybody, ever. And that they make everything perfect. You know, there’s, you know, cannabis is is terrible for you. SSRI Smith depression goes the best way to treat depression. There’s no way to fix diabetes unless you just, you know, do the treatments. There’s lots and lots of things people have said over time, that we found out had been wrong. Typically with engineering degrees, we find out that they are wrong pretty quick. It’s a close up, so falls apart.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:02:28] So typically the engineering guys, would they would they come out with this less ideology, ideology and more physics? And physics is kind of hard. Well, Newtonian. And I said in physics on Earth, it’s pretty hard to, pretty hard to argue with. So those are usually pretty solid. But whenever we start having, options, we get a lot of conjecture, especially with the body. You look at nutritionists, and they believe that, you know. Oats and wheat is good for everybody. They believe that carbohydrates are very, very important. They believe that calories are the way their bodies run, which is. Not right at all. Which is why we have so much confusion. But, you know, that’s where we are with those degrees. The degree just means, again, that the answers you provide to us. The people who are issuing the degree agree with, you know, a lot of my friends who don’t have degrees are phenomenally successful, and they go against the trends and everything else is set. But in mine, Ryan soon does not have a degree, but he’s one of the best marketers I’ve ever talked to. He does things and says things that are in direct, conflict with people who have marketing degrees. You know, he’s out there doing it, and the guys who are in the ivory tower teaching are being like, that’s not how you should do these things. But you know who agrees with the guy who who has a theory or the guy who has an actual applicable thing that’s working right now?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:04:09] And so that’s that’s where I think a lot of this is coming down to, we need to be more careful with the trust we put in the degree, the trust we put in certifications, because it doesn’t mean. It doesn’t really mean what it used to. Again, all certifications, all degrees, mean that the institution put together a curriculum. You know, we’re going to ask you this question, and this is the right answer to this question. And then you were able to remember enough of the right answers to the questions, to, to get certified, to get passed. So, for instance, the I took a 120 hour, like, it was like a year and a half to get my, ksp, my, certification sports. My my sports, my thing. I learned more about how to treat athletes in about an hour from my one of my pediatric and pregnancy friends, who taught me how to kind of manipulate the pelvis better than I did in that entire course. Yeah. But on the other side of that, my neurology, you know, certification, was up, but that was taught by a nurse that was taught by, someone who is deeply passionate about the information and would wake up in the morning and read about. And he would read about in the afternoon. Doctor Michael Hall, is is an interesting cat. But he, that was his thing or was his thing, and nobody could argue with him about it because he knew all the research and he read all the books, and he had he had he had a dial that, and that would be,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:05:53] I think the difference in where we need to go is who taught you? Where did the certification come from? Who’s. Who’s putting this together? What are their agendas? Who’s financing it? Like the vast majority of our nutrition right now. It’s coming out from lobbies like this for a lot. That’s where the food pyramid came from. Was. It was not like scientists. It wasn’t people who knew how the body work. It was lobbyists who were like, we need to sell more bread. And so they put bread for days. That’s the, table. Everybody should eat this. The cheeseburger was actually invented, so we’re cheese. Which I’m not knocking cheeseburgers, which are fantastic. But that’s that’s how a lot of this stuff started. It’s not because, you know, the chemistry is there. It’s because the marketing dollars are there. And so we just we just take things and you go, okay, this is how it works. You know, we’ve told everybody for, I don’t know how long a long time. The calories are what the body runs on, which is 100% raw calories have nothing to do with anything in the body. The definition of calorie is, you know, the amount of energy required to move one kilogram of water one degree Celsius. Well, it’s pretty easy to figure out if your body runs in calories. 2000 calories take your temperature for temperature doesn’t go up. You’re not running on calories by definition.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:07:15] So, you know, everybody runs an ATP, you know, but it’s easier to tell people. Oh, we run on calories because then if you go, well, where do we get ATP? You know, we get from 2 to 2 places sugars and fats. Oh, if I want to burn more stuff, I want to eat more fat from my body than should I just move myself into a fat eating diet? Yeah. You should. The easiest way to do it, you know, that’s how keto works. You should buy ATP from sugar or from fat. So if you haven’t made it from fat, look at that. Now all of a sudden, your body’s burning off all this stuff. So but again, it’s a way to confuse people so that you can then own them and sell them all sorts of things. All the weight loss drugs, all the all the different things. The only the only weight loss drug, really fat loss drug actually works is semaglutide or risk appetite or the GMP one agonists. And the reason they work is because your biochemistry is set to either run on insulin, which source that or glucagon, which tells you to use fat for fuel. Those are your two options. And if we if we learn this 30 years ago, we wouldn’t be fat now. But that’s when we knew it. 30 years.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:25] You know, I just want to talk. I actually want to talk about calories and make money off so people fat loss stuff. But that’s that’s where that is. The, you know, if you wanted to really get that stuff knocked out, you know, you work on a hormonal basis, you work on for fat loss. So if you work on, you know, decreasing your insulin, increasing your, good vigor, but, you know, that goes back to education and all these doctors who have these degrees that, you know, people mistake for, you know, they don’t know how the body works instead of they know how to answer questions put together from a pharmaceutical group. And they’re like, oh, well, you know, ketones bad and this is bad. And, you know, I need to, you know, watch my BMI, which, if there was, there’s if there’s a list of things that why we should not listen to the information given from the medical community. The BMI is the number one. The the idea that your height and your weight somehow equates to our health. You are, which is it’s in every one of your charts. Like, if you get your medical records and look for the baby, it’s going to be in that.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:29] And the funny thing is you go, well, Dot, do you really believe that the BMI, because it specifically states that if you diet and exercise to BMI doesn’t work right? So if you take the advice of the doctors and you diet and exercise and the stuff they’re using to track you doesn’t work right. And they go, yeah, it’s not that big of a deal. I don’t really think it’s that accurate. All right. Well, then why are you putting it in my chart? Because he paid for it. Insurance pays for that. So they put it in there. So what they’re telling you is that they’re taking information they know to be false, and they’re using it in your charts so they can get paid. So they’re willing to put false information in your chart, but they know it’s false. As long as they pay. So where else does this go? Well, I’m sure you understand that the reason that we get kicked out of, pediatric practices if they don’t vaccinate is because they’re paid in a percentage of the patients that are actually taking these giant checks, sometimes six, six, you know, big six figure checks, as long as 90% of their population or their patient population is vaccinated.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:31] Well, if they’re not actually, you just kick them out of practice. Well, that’s the thing. If you believe that, maybe, maybe since there’s no longitudinal studies that show that say vaccines are safe. Maybe we shouldn’t be doing this. You ask your doctor, why are they doing it? It’s because they’re getting paid. They’re not reading the research. They’re not looking into it because they’re getting paid to vaccinate your kids. So a lot of times they’re going to throw the safety and the health of your children away as long as they get paid. But they have the degree. And so we go, oh, they must know how the body works. So, you know, even the degrees I have, you know, people point out all the time that I’m chiropractors. I shouldn’t talk about, you know, nutrition. Because apparently the way people believe is that once you get a degree, that’s the last time you read a book. And to be fair, that’s the case with most people. But, you know, that’s where it is. So when you look at people’s degrees, you take it with a grain of salt. Kind of figure out, okay, you have this degree, so you have a legal authority to do X, Y, and Z. However, use and discernment from what they say. So, if you, thanks for your time with us. See you guys later.

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